Comments on: Inside publishing http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:55:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Visuals and Informal Learning » VisualsSpeak blog http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-999 Visuals and Informal Learning » VisualsSpeak blog Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:28:00 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-999 [...] just finished Jay Cross’ book, Informal Learning. It’s based on the idea that most of the learning we do at work is not in the classroom. [...] [...] just finished Jay Cross’ book, Informal Learning. It’s based on the idea that most of the learning we do at work is not in the classroom. [...]

]]> By: Visuals and Informal Learning at VisualsSpeak http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Visuals and Informal Learning at VisualsSpeak Wed, 30 May 2007 06:06:24 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-998 [...] I’ve just finished Jay Cross’ book, Informal Learning. It’s based on the idea that most of the learning we do at work is not in the classroom. There is an overview of this idea on Jay’s blog, Informal Learning: What is Informal Learning? [...] [...] I’ve just finished Jay Cross’ book, Informal Learning. It’s based on the idea that most of the learning we do at work is not in the classroom. There is an overview of this idea on Jay’s blog, Informal Learning: What is Informal Learning? [...]

]]> By: Vincent http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-997 Vincent Wed, 09 May 2007 13:37:18 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-997 Your book is available on amazon.fr (and I've just ordered a copy for myself). Your book is available on amazon.fr (and I’ve just ordered a copy for myself).

]]> By: Jay Cross http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-996 Jay Cross Wed, 09 May 2007 01:25:39 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-996 Clive, and Stephen, if I had it to do over again, I would. In a heartbeat. I am not purveying sour grapes. As you point out, I get rewarded by more opportunities and higher fees. Also, as Clive notes, it's good karma. I believe in what I write and hope that spreading the word improves people's lives. Nonetheless, it feels unfair that publishers get so much for doing so little. A published book gives my words a certain cachet. After establishing credibility with the first one, the self-publishing alternative is probably faster, better, cheaper. Andreas, it's probably easiest to go to whatever Amazon site works best for you. My book's on Amazon.de. True, I don't get an extra bump from Amazon, but we're only talking about a couple of Euros, so I can live without. I think of Pay Pal tip jars as only one step up from street urchins begging for space change. The Google Reader filtering is the best I've found. Keep us informed of your new discoveries. Clive, and Stephen, if I had it to do over again, I would. In a heartbeat. I am not purveying sour grapes. As you point out, I get rewarded by more opportunities and higher fees. Also, as Clive notes, it’s good karma. I believe in what I write and hope that spreading the word improves people’s lives. Nonetheless, it feels unfair that publishers get so much for doing so little.

A published book gives my words a certain cachet. After establishing credibility with the first one, the self-publishing alternative is probably faster, better, cheaper.

Andreas, it’s probably easiest to go to whatever Amazon site works best for you. My book’s on Amazon.de. True, I don’t get an extra bump from Amazon, but we’re only talking about a couple of Euros, so I can live without. I think of Pay Pal tip jars as only one step up from street urchins begging for space change. The Google Reader filtering is the best I’ve found. Keep us informed of your new discoveries.

]]> By: Andreas Weinberger http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-995 Andreas Weinberger Sun, 06 May 2007 20:48:40 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-995 Dear Jay, these are bad news and I feel sorry for you. I myself am planning to buy the book but since I am living in Europe your Amazon-link does not work for me - is there a international button too? Why don't you add a PayPal button to your homepage so your readers would be able to send you a little something directly. I like to pay the author directly and I hate feeding the publishing machine:-) Best wishes Andreas PS: Is your improved InfoFlow in Google Reader doing well? I am working on the next step already: making interconnections between newsitems and storing the whole information... (my post for this topic are in german but I will write a summary as soon as I have found a solution). Dear Jay,

these are bad news and I feel sorry for you. I myself am planning to buy the book but since I am living in Europe your Amazon-link does not work for me – is there a international button too?

Why don’t you add a PayPal button to your homepage so your readers would be able to send you a little something directly. I like to pay the author directly and I hate feeding the publishing machine:-)

Best wishes

Andreas

PS: Is your improved InfoFlow in Google Reader doing well? I am working on the next step already: making interconnections between newsitems and storing the whole information… (my post for this topic are in german but I will write a summary as soon as I have found a solution).

]]> By: Stephen Downes http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-994 Stephen Downes Sun, 06 May 2007 12:53:56 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-994 OK then, since you knew this was the likely result, why'd you do it? What motivated you to work on something for thousands of hours at a rate of return somewhere around a dollar an hour? I suspect the answer lies in your other post: you need a 'calling card' that will be cited on people's 'must read' lists. A successful book is that foot in the door you need to get speaking gigs and consulting jobs. I personally am torn by all this. I am often urged to write a book, but I don't particularly need fame to prosper (one of the perks of a nice government job) but on the other hand recognition for my work would be nice. But not so nice that it's worth caving to the publishing industry and playing the less-than-minimum wage lottery like that. OK then, since you knew this was the likely result, why’d you do it? What motivated you to work on something for thousands of hours at a rate of return somewhere around a dollar an hour?

I suspect the answer lies in your other post: you need a ‘calling card’ that will be cited on people’s ‘must read’ lists. A successful book is that foot in the door you need to get speaking gigs and consulting jobs.

I personally am torn by all this. I am often urged to write a book, but I don’t particularly need fame to prosper (one of the perks of a nice government job) but on the other hand recognition for my work would be nice. But not so nice that it’s worth caving to the publishing industry and playing the less-than-minimum wage lottery like that.

]]> By: Clive Shepherd http://www.internettime.com/2007/05/inside-publishing/comment-page-1/#comment-993 Clive Shepherd Sun, 06 May 2007 11:36:45 +0000 http://internettime.com/?p=848#comment-993 So why bother with Wiley? Publish yourself through Lulu and keep everything except the printing cost. I'm writing a book as we speak and I just can't bring myself to talk to a publisher - I'm happy to do it all myself, including the desktop publishing. Of course, you know and everyone knows that there's no money in trade books, except for the publishers. But if you write a good book -and you certainly did - your reputation (and hence your consulting fees) should show you substantially in profit. Even if not, think of the help you have provided to countless readers. So why bother with Wiley? Publish yourself through Lulu and keep everything except the printing cost. I’m writing a book as we speak and I just can’t bring myself to talk to a publisher – I’m happy to do it all myself, including the desktop publishing.

Of course, you know and everyone knows that there’s no money in trade books, except for the publishers. But if you write a good book -and you certainly did – your reputation (and hence your consulting fees) should show you substantially in profit. Even if not, think of the help you have provided to countless readers.

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