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	<title>Comments on: Future of the university</title>
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		<title>By: Future of the university at Ari Vesikko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Future of the university at Ari Vesikko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jay Cross:n blogissa keskustellaan tulevaisuuden yliopistosta. Saattaa tietysti olla vaikeaa kuin sään ennustaminen&#8230;. Alla video ja Crossin tiivistelmä. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mindful learner</title>
		<link>http://www.internettime.com/2008/12/future-of-the-university/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>mindful learner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe there is a great market opportunity to challenge the traditional university education, at least in the UK.  There is no doubt that the current, non-vocational 3 year degree in England poorly serves most of the learning population, particularly now they have to pay all of their own fees.  For many, 3 years pass, £20,000 in debt is gained and job chances increase marginally.  I regularly interview English graduates with First-class degrees from top universities who have spent the last year working at Costa or Starbucks.  It breaks my heart.  Two thoughts: (1) can a university offer a 2 year &#039;compressed&#039; degree - same as now but with the holidays removed.  OR, a 1 or 2 year degree with less covered but a stronger vocational focus (effectively the need served by the old polytechnic system).  I&#039;d also be interested to see if large organisations could start to offer degree-style programs.  E.g. the Toyota engineering foundation degree - but aimed at anyone who pays.  The challenge is to think how to make these things credible, but I don&#039;t see that as a hurdle that can be, um, jumped over.  Currently, a formal university education is too long, too expensive and too unfocused.  I really hope something gets done.

Mindful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there is a great market opportunity to challenge the traditional university education, at least in the UK.  There is no doubt that the current, non-vocational 3 year degree in England poorly serves most of the learning population, particularly now they have to pay all of their own fees.  For many, 3 years pass, £20,000 in debt is gained and job chances increase marginally.  I regularly interview English graduates with First-class degrees from top universities who have spent the last year working at Costa or Starbucks.  It breaks my heart.  Two thoughts: (1) can a university offer a 2 year &#8216;compressed&#8217; degree &#8211; same as now but with the holidays removed.  OR, a 1 or 2 year degree with less covered but a stronger vocational focus (effectively the need served by the old polytechnic system).  I&#8217;d also be interested to see if large organisations could start to offer degree-style programs.  E.g. the Toyota engineering foundation degree &#8211; but aimed at anyone who pays.  The challenge is to think how to make these things credible, but I don&#8217;t see that as a hurdle that can be, um, jumped over.  Currently, a formal university education is too long, too expensive and too unfocused.  I really hope something gets done.</p>
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		<title>By: eVideoThek der FHTW Berlin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Give Universities a Chance?</title>
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		<dc:creator>eVideoThek der FHTW Berlin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Give Universities a Chance?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] die Legitimation von Universitäten in der heutigen Form radikal in Frage stelle, gefällt mir Jay Cross&#8216; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sui Fai John Mak</title>
		<link>http://www.internettime.com/2008/12/future-of-the-university/comment-page-1/#comment-1620</link>
		<dc:creator>Sui Fai John Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, Great to learn these from you.  I like the ideas, and would think this is also a good time for changes from a systemic point of view - in particular to focus on the learner&#039;s needs on learning, and to build on an educational system paradigm shift that embraces a multidisciplinary learning focus.
What forms of test beds would help?  Would it be similar to the open courses that have been promoted? Would Courses such as CCK08 be a start?  I enjoyed the CCK08 and think it has established some guidelines and milestones for others to follow suit.  And I have read your previous post on praising its success.
What were the reactions of the professors and administrators of the universities in the conference?  I would be interested in learning more on their perspectives too.   Renewed thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, Great to learn these from you.  I like the ideas, and would think this is also a good time for changes from a systemic point of view &#8211; in particular to focus on the learner&#8217;s needs on learning, and to build on an educational system paradigm shift that embraces a multidisciplinary learning focus.<br />
What forms of test beds would help?  Would it be similar to the open courses that have been promoted? Would Courses such as CCK08 be a start?  I enjoyed the CCK08 and think it has established some guidelines and milestones for others to follow suit.  And I have read your previous post on praising its success.<br />
What were the reactions of the professors and administrators of the universities in the conference?  I would be interested in learning more on their perspectives too.   Renewed thanks for the information.</p>
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